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The Love Anyway podcast

pushes beyond fear, beyond the simple narrative of “us vs. them.” Travel with us as we explore how people are choosing to love, even when it means risking everything.

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Season 2 | Episode 5: Talking to Kids About Race

Join us for a candid conversation about talking to kids about race. Rapper and Preemptive Love’s artist-in-residence Propaganda, and his wife, university professor Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty, share their experiences growing up as people of color, explore how they’ve talked about racism with their children, and speak into what they want white parents to know about humility and allyship.

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